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  1. Bruce Lindahl says:

    Hello Richard, its been awhile since I last contacted you. I just came across another article that disputes your exclusive definition of baptizo and thus part of your criticism of Lutherans etc.

    http://www.reformedonline.com/uploads/1/5/0/3/15030584/chapter_6_sacraments.pdf

    Joh_6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

    Mat 5:9  “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. 

    Let us be sons of God!

    • Hello Bruce… Thank you again for writing and sharing what you have found.

      I think that several factors would be of interest to you. First, virtually all modern lexicons point out the meaning of the Greek terms, baptizo, baptisma, baptismos. Second, early church history shows that immersion was practiced from the very beginning. The exception seems to be the Didache (about AD 120 or so), that makes allowance for profuse pouring if enough water is not present. Third, the circumstantial evidence is persuasive. In other words, both Jesus’ baptism and the Ethiopian’s baptism involved a going to the water, a baptism, and then a coming from the water. Fourth, picturing baptism as a burial or a birth both point to immersion rather than either pouring or sprinkling. I might add that even when infant baptism began to arise in the third century, we suppose that dipping was the rule.

      All of this, Bruce, is persuasive. I would consider it if I were you. Baptism is too important to allow for something that large numbers of evangelicals would doubt or deny.

  2. I hope in The Lord Jesus you and Moni are doing well.

  3. magdalena zaleska says:

    i have read little bit from your blog,i liked the honour how you speak about God,and that you want glorify Him,if could help with what i think,if you are interested in my opinion,it could be more simple pages,for me too much words, too much complicated,we should be more like for children,more focused on Him ,about who He is,so He woul be in the centre,i didnt find on your blog if you are confessing Lord Jesus Christ came in flesh,that is the basic,how can i recognize if you are truly from God,I dont know if this is possible to recognise trough internet,sorry for my English,i hope i didnt heart you with my opinion

    • Magdalena, I am so glad that you wrote and expressed your concerns. It is true that we must make our focus the Lord Jesus Christ, that He came in the flesh and is fully deity. He is our Savior, our Lord, and our King!

      As for the matter of making articles that are shorter or less complicated, I would agree that there should be some of these. I would understand that English is not your mother tongue, thus the articles may present a challenge to you. I wish it were different. On the other hand, probably many (even the majority) of our readers do have English as their regular language, thus the articles may be somewhat easier for them. We must serve them too.

      Magdalena, I appreciate so much your desire to honor God in the way you speak. I assume that you also want your life to reflect His glory and you want your life to be lived in obedience to His will. This is so good! I hope that you will be able to read through the articles (maybe slowly) and derive some good from them. God loves you and we do too. There probably is so much on the website that will be of help to you and I hope that you will be able to learn by this means. May God bless you abundantly!

  4. Hi brother Hollerman, just found your site. Well written; thank you.
    brother Mark O’Brien

  5. Shelly, I am still interested in replying to your email if you would like to contact me by email. May God bless you.

  6. I forgot to ask you if you believe in the Trinity. This is a very important question to me. Thankyou

    • Susan, although I shy away from using non-Biblical and theological terms at times, I do believe that Jesus Christ is “God” (theos) (John 1:1-3, 14, 18), the Spirit is “God” (Acts 5:3-4; Matthew 28:19), and the Father is God (1 Cor. 8:6).

  7. Dear Richard, This has been some very interesting and thought provoking reading. I like the respectful way you answer people.Also,the promptness of your replies. I’m glad I found your site. Susan

    • Good morning Susan… Thank you for your response. Whether someone is searching, or one agrees with us, or one disagrees with us, we must always seek to be loving and respectful, and sometimes forceful. See passages such as Colossians 4:5-6; 2 Timothy 2:24-26; Ephesians 4:29; and Titus 1:9-13. May God bless you in your continued study and searching, for God’s glory.

  8. Hi i just a have a questions about communion, my husband has recently start going to a Lutheran church (i truly don’t know much about this church) he goes to church every saturday evening and sundays to both services while they offer communion at all three services he was able to partake in all three is this right? He was also offered communion his first visit at the church is the right/normal? Do they have to take a class to become a member/baptized? It is my understanding that you should be baptized before having communion and also repenting of sins. And i was unaware that you could take it that often. Also a question about lutherans and crosses do they use this as part of their main “feature” lack of the right word right now sorry. But since my husband has been going there is collecting them and has them all over our room (i have since moved out of the room because it makes me uncomfortable like a shrine of sorts) Also while i am on here could you please pray for him he seems to not be understanding the word. I have prayed for 19 years for him to find the lord and since he has started going to this church ( i am not blaming the church more his understanding of the church and his readings) has become more angry he seems to have gotten worse has more “hatred for me and his children” if we question him or his church we insult him etc. He asks me why i don’t like his church and when i start stating some reasons he gets offended and pouts. He always says i read the whole Bible and where ever we go he walks around cocky making sure everyone notices he has the Bible on him and wears many crosses. He also has been going around blessing peoples crosses and then if they don’t respond how he feels they should he said they should not be wearing “his lords” cross. Sorry for the rambling there are many issues to him just asking for prayers and clerification on some beliefs. Thank you

    • Hello Shelly! Thank you so much for writing and explaining your situation. I am thinking that it might be better to respond to you by email (unless you definitely want me to respond on the website). If you would like this, I could write to you. Do you have a secure email address? Just let me know. Truediscipleship (at) integrity.com.

  9. I am delighted to see your post.

    I am a simple Christian and found encouragement in reading the words of a young man who searches Scripture.

    My brothers are members of ELCA and are main organizers of their gay-pride sunday participation. This is a profound sadness for me. It caused me to spend months at BibleHub seeking responses to the #LoveIsLove theology. My work continues.

    I would like you to meet Pastor Jyothi Benjamin on Facebook if you would like to see early Christianity in action.

    God Bless you

    • Thank you so much for writing, Kathryn. I can see why you are sad because of your brothers who are part of the Lutheran Church and yet are very pro-sodomite. Sadly, they would probably fit in with those in Sodom at the time of Lot’s stay there.

      I would encourage you to be strong in the Scriptures and do not be moved away from the high-sounding arguments that unbelieving and compromising people will put forth. In the case of your brothers, it would be good to establish Biblical authority with them and from that show them that many passages of the inspired Word condemns the sodomite practice and lifestyle. It should be troubling for them to realize that no sodomite (or homosexual) will inherit the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Hebrews 13:4).

      May God bless you! And, by the way, check out what we have written concerning the Lutheran Church. As you know, I left the Lutheran Church years ago. Richard

  10. Paul Bomberger says:

    Yes! You definitely have my permission to use any part, or my entire letter. I would ask you to correct sections in which I repeated words, & errors in grammar, & spelling.
    It seems to me that the main purpose for learning wisdom is to be prepared to pass it onto others, when a door of opportunity opens.
    Thank you for your dedication to plumbing the depths the original meanings, in order to teach true believers how to understand passages which seem unclear, &/or confusing. Few in number are serious Bible scholars. Of those who seek absolute truth, only a small % write physical books, or pamphlets, which generally go unread.
    Your website will reach millions of people, equipping them to be better prepared to defend their beliefs based on accurate understanding of scripture.
    It will also draw in non-believers in a non-threatening environment; a perfect example of becoming all things to all people, that by all means, some might be save.
    With Christ’s love, paul

    • Dear Paul,

      Thank you so much for your comments and your gracious spirit in answering. I also appreciate your permission to use your letter. Let us always seek the truth of God with all of our heart! Let us love Him, trust Him, serve Him, and obey Him with all we are and have!

  11. Paul Bomberger says:

    Richard,
    I began seriously studying the Bible in 1974. I struggled for many years trying to understand to understand the 1611 King James Translation; because the churches I belonged to during the first 5-6 years of my walk with Jesus.
    I tried to convince many people God speaks to each individual in a language they can understand. A friend of mine for more than 35 years ademently insists in KJV only. We’ve had hundreds of conversations during those years.
    Granted, he has spent 1,000s o hours studying KJV, & has much knowledge. Paraphrasing; “knowledge pufeth up, but charity edifieth.”
    Our debate one day became so heated that I angrily stated, “That is a doctrine straight from Hell!!”. Satan would love to have everyone believe that 1611 British English is the only accurate translation of God’s Word; knowing that the vast majority could not correctly understand what they read.
    The apostle Paul explained his approach to witnessing & teaching to a variety of people: Jews, Romans, & so on. I Cor. 9:20-23 is a key statement to buttress defenses of valid modern translations, & contemporary Christian music.
    There are antithetical translations which should ignored, & so-called contemporary Christian music which violates Truth.
    I Cor. 19-22: (NAS) 19 “For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a slave to all, that I might win the more. 20 And to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win the Jews; to those under the Law, as under the Law, though not being myself under the Law, that I might win those who are under the law;
    21 to those who are without law, as without the law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, that I might win those win those who are without the law.
    22 To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, that I may by all means save some.”
    This section of scripture speaks to many contentious issues including, but not limited to, translations, songs & music used in serving Jesus, what to wear, keeping in mind modesty, & eschewing clothes which might tempt others to lust, as well as a plethora of other aspects of living our lives in a manner of obedience to God’s Word. In this way we are a pleasing fragrance to God, being true servants which brings Jesus joy.

    • Paul, thank you for writing about such an important issue. It would seem that you have arrived at a solid and Scriptural foundation for your belief that one can use a modern version, providing that it is accurate and true. I wholeheartedly agree.
      May I have your permission to use your letter? I think that I could use parts or the whole letter in the Questions Answered section. Would you grant such permission? In this way, I can comment much more extensively.
      Thank you. –Richard

  12. David Agbosu says:

    Thank you for the great work you are doing. God bless you.

    I would like to know why does the righteous suffer? Why does God allow suffering on the righteous ?

    • David, this is an excellent question and God does reveal something about this–although not as much as we might want.

      For the Christian, God sometimes wants to refine us, teach us, and help us to grow spiritually. This might also lead us away from sinful attitudes and behavior. You might want to read Hebrews 12:7-11 and 2 Corinthians 12:7-10.

      Second, God can help us to become more empathetic with the sorrows and pain of others.2 Corinthians 1:3-6.

      Third, following Jesus the Lord may sometimes bring suffering, rejection, and hardship. Thus, it serves as a reminder of our discipleship to Christ. (See 2 Timothy 3:12.)

      Fourth, we also know that unbelievers suffer in many ways. When it happens that a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, a Jewish person, a Catholic, or others experience pain, it could be God mercifully reaching out to that person to draw him or her to Himself through Christ Jesus.

      I hope that you will find that other articles on this website will help you further. May God bless you, David.

  13. So I typed in “is music evil” and the first hit was true discipleship . Com
    Read ALL about how the “rock beat” was evil. This had the claim that there was scripture backing this up…sadly there was not. Anyways, the claim is that a repetitious off beat is bad. It made the point that beat theory and syncopation was not understandable for animals so it must be bad for humans. Anyways, Gods original design for me was perfect. Perfect! I absolutely Love him for this. One of the many gifts he has given me is rhythm. He gave me a heart beat that I can always feel. Because there is a second chamber for the heart if you listen closely, it will sound like two separate beats, a ” repetitious Off beat ” built inside me. Why would he give that to every single human that has every existed and will ever exist and even to his own Son if it was a bad thing?

    • Hello Ted…

      I’m glad that you wrote your message about the evils of rock music. There are many reasons why rock, as well as many other kinds of music (hip hop, country, etc.), would be objectionable to God and the way of holiness.

      It has been an objection to worldly music with the use of three “M’s” and this would be: (1) The Message. Of course, secular music would be objectionable because it is filled with sex, rebellion, drugs, etc. And much “Christian” music would be a problem because of the content being questionable (see below); (2) The Messengers. In other words, the singers and instrumentalists. Most are living religious but worldly lives, thus they are unfit as role models. Or the singers might be women, and Scripture says that a woman is not to teach or exercise authority over the man–but to remain quiet (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 1 Cor. 14:33-37). (3) The Music. And this is where you come in.

      If I am understanding you, regardless of the other objectionable parts, you think that the music itself is permissible. Ted, this makes me wonder if you might have been “braidwashed” by former listening to worldly secular rock music. Was this so?

      As you grow in your appreciation of the Christian lifestyle, the Christian worldview, the Christian view of entertainment and worship, and like elements, you will come to see that the loud, pounding beat, the wild expressions, the drums and guitars, are all of the world in regard to so-called “Christian” music.

      Another thing for you to consider is this: Is there a reason why the New Testament refers to a cappella (without instrumentation) Christian music maybe 7 or 8 times, whereas there is no reference to any instruments at all? Most commentators and students of music and history, point out that the early Christians, for many hundreds of years, refused to use instruments of music with their singing. I think that if this was adopted today, your own objections and the objections of many other people would be removed.

      Please think and pray about this. May God bless you!

  14. I hope that you will check out the 1,700 different articles available on the website, Truediscipleship.com. I don’t know exactly what you are seeking, but there must be something of interest and value on the site for you. May God bless you in your quest.

  15. I wish that I could recommend other blog sites, but at present I cannot. I don’t follow them myself, thus I don’t have firsthand information on what is available. There surely must be many good ones–in the midst of millions of bad and unscriptural ones. I hope that you will check out the 1,700 different articles we do have on TrueDiscipleship.com. May God bless you!

  16. joseph onyango says:

    Richarc you discovered truly tha my message wasnot complete but half way. True am try to tell you that as far as i have read your articles i come to learn that if what what your aregiving us hre inthe web could have reached many many peole i think there could be a great change in peoples lives. Justimagine majority do not visit websites and majority do not vist cybercafes for they they have no knowledge on them.
    Africa we have so many denominations that pastors have no formal traing in biblical studies and the have anumber of beievers who trusted whatthey prach and in the real sence they are Apostate churhes.In my country alone so many false preachers arenmberless i can not count. They preach no tuth at all . Reason they have changedthe gospel to thir benet and decieved believers even in the case of Baptism.
    Richacrd i will send you some copies of the recnent published Newspaper and you will be shocked to see how thegospel is ruined and people still folow without realising the thedefects.That is why am requesting you please God has blessed you with something which if you can disseminate to Africa i believe some will be saved. You know Bible Schools are vey expensive and thats why most pastors cannot afford to pay so they draw and claim that they preaching with power of the spirit in real ense not true.
    Richard what i learned in Bible school acording to you God has gifted you.
    You take onWomen Pastors i agree with you for that is how we taught. Butin country we lots of Women Pastors and this gospel of Women Ordination is contraversial they have already done aay with this book Icor 14;34-47.
    But Gods word cannot change the world can do but Not God.
    Please I believe thereis nothing imposible with God Lk1;37 one day God will send you to Africa and Help thes Pastors

    • Joseph, I am very glad and highly privileged to receive your thoughtful and true comments. I can see that you have been unwilling to accept anything that some preacher tells you, but you want to discover whether what people say is based on the Word of God. This is so important!
      One reason it is important is that the Bible is God’s Word, and it is inspired of the Holy Spirit (2 Timothy 3:16-17), and it brings us to salvation (v. 15).
      Another reason is that it will judge us on the Last Day, the Day of Judgment. Jesus said this at John 12:48.
      Joseph, as you know, all false doctrines and false ways and false practices must be judged by the Word of the Living God. Regardless of how many preachers, teachers, pastors, priests, or so-called prophets may promote something, we still must go back to what God has said. All traditions must fall in light of God’s truth contained in His written Word. Jesus said to people in His day, “Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men” (Mark 7:8; see also vv.9-13).
      Joseph, you mentioned certain false teachings, such as women preachers and pastors, as well as infant baptism (actually sprinkling or pouring). Yes, both of these false practices and must be rejected, according to God’s will. But there are many more!
      I hope that you continue to search the TrueDiscipleship.com website and look for more information that may help you and others whom you may know.
      May God bless you richly, Joseph.
      –Richard

    • Joseph, I am very glad and highly privileged to receive your thoughtful and true comments. I can see that you have been unwilling to accept anything that some preacher tells you, but you want to discover whether what people say is based on the Word of God. This is so important!
      One reason it is important is that the Bible is God’s Word, and it is inspired of the Holy Spirit (2 Timothy 3:16-17), and it brings us to salvation (v. 15).
      Another reason is that it will judge us on the Last Day, the Day of Judgment. Jesus said this at John 12:48.
      Joseph, as you know, all false doctrines and false ways and false practices must be judged by the Word of the Living God. Regardless of how many preachers, teachers, pastors, priests, or so-called prophets may promote something, we still must go back to what God has said. All traditions must fall in light of God’s truth contained in His written Word. Jesus said to people in His day, “Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men” (Mark 7:8; see also vv.9-13).
      Joseph, you mentioned certain false teachings, such as women preachers and pastors, as well as infant baptism (actually sprinkling or pouring). Yes, both of these false practices and must be rejected, according to God’s will. But there are many more!
      I hope that you continue to search the TrueDiscipleship.com website and look for more information that may help you and others whom you may know.
      May God bless you richly, Joseph.
      –Richard

  17. joseph onyango says:

    Richard
    So interesting and inspirational your articlesinthis web . I do nnot want stop but time. Now am coming to my senses that am still a babe in Biblical studies am proud that am now learning more and isuppose that you could have establish a theological school in Kenya. Surely i can see a light through the t unnel, God is Good

    • Joseph, it seems that your message was cut off somewhat, but we do thank you for responding to the True Discipleship website. We want to be helpful and truthful in everything that is put up for people to read. Paul says that Scripture is meant to lead us to salvation (2 Timothy 3:15), and also meant to be useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness (vv. 16-17). This too is the purpose that we would use Scripture in the many articles. We want to be a blessing to all of the readers, wherever they may be. May you be blessed as you read each article and consider it in light of God’s infallible Word.

    • Joseph, it seems that your message was cut off somewhat, but we do thank you for responding to the True Discipleship website. We want to be helpful and truthful in everything that is put up for people to read. Paul says that Scripture is meant to lead us to salvation (2 Timothy 3:15), and also meant to be useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness (vv. 16-17). This too is the purpose that we would use Scripture in the many articles. We want to be a blessing to all of the readers, wherever they may be. May you be blessed as you read each article and consider it in light of God’s infallible Word.

  18. joseph onyango says:

    Richard
    Now am understanding your articles well since youtold me look for such .really i find the truth is here may God keep it up and moere and more . Very inspirational indeed

    • Thank you again for writing, Joseph. I am glad that you are finding value in the True Discipleship articles you have checked. There are many hundreds of them, so there are many more for you to read and consider. May God bless you in your reading and study, and may He give you the opportunity to understand and obey whatever you read that is in accordance with God’s will.

  19. P.s. Hard to read your blog becuz print too small.
    Ominous should be coming (have to figure out how to take off auto spell check).

    • Greetings,
      Thanks for you comment. I work on the technical aspects of of the site. Richard has been telling me the font size should be increased but I haven’t found an issue. I have viewed the site from smart phones, tablets, various versions of windows pcs and everything seems fine. You have been the first to make mention that the size is too small (other than Richard).

      I did increase the font size 1 pixel. Let me know what you think, and again thanks for your comments.

      Tony

  20. Ri hard: Having come out of a very legalist movement (won’t consider them a church) nothing but guilt, condemnation, criticism, and belittling not to mention all the lies to keep the sheeple sick, in bondage and. Ominous back for more. Re: “Christian Worship and Women Singers”: Research matters now: Have you read “10 Lies The Church Tells Women and Lies Men Believe by J. Lee Grady (talk with him) and When Women Were Priest by Karen Jo Torjesen, Rethinking Women in Ministry-Beyond Evangelical -Frank Viola (4-17-2012 essay). What about that wonderful book about “All Women in the Bible”. What about book: Pagan Christianity (green cover) by Frank Viola all the Lies/ Dogma that Church Leadership has served up. Have not read “Women in the Church: A Biblical Theology of Women in Ministry by Stanley Grenz/Denise Kjesbo”.

    Reasearch a matter: abused by name of church/abused by name of pastor
    Controversial articles name of church/controversial articles name of pastor
    People’s negative feedback name of church/people’s negative feedback name of pastor
    Scandal name of church/scandal name of pastor.
    That’s how found your website by researching Jackie Alnor’s 2003 article on Joel Osteen. By the way, David Wilkerson wrote “Troublemakers In the Church” 6/2007 (previous 1988) based on one woman and he was praying for armies of troublemakers in general. My personal favorite holy guys are Leonard Ravenhill (why revival Tarries, America is too young to die, sodom had no bible, tried and transfigured) and Arthur Katz (Apostolic Foundations, Reality-The Hope of Glory, Prophetic Call, Spirit of Truth). Paul in the Bible said he kept the traditions of men.
    Can give you scores of books on church abuse/lies like: Don’t Call Me Brother by Austin Miles, Losing My Religion by Wm Lobdell, Toxic Faith by Arterburn, Blue Print by Clifford James, Salvation for Sale by Straub, Marjoe Documentary, DVD-Lord, Save Us From Your Followers, Accidental Saints by weber, Cages of Pain by Gordon Aeschliman, Christian Brainwashing by D i c k Sutphen to name just drop in the bucket.
    P.s. I do not want to be added to any type of daily or mailing list. Tks.

    • Greetings Mrs. Schwartz. I’m so glad that you wrote and explained yourself. I see that you are widely read and have done a lot of research. I have some of the same books that you have mentioned or recommended. Of course, some (not all) of them recommend home groups and getting away from institutional churches and denominations, and I can Amen that. Some are Pentecostal and Wesleyan in background, and I do try to learn what I can whatever background a person is from. I find that I can learn something from even false teachers and preachers, some of which you have mentioned.
      Mrs. Schwartz (sorry that I didn’t pick up your name), I can see that you must have left what you considered legalism, but I just wonder what you mean by that label? As you know, that word can be thrown around to mean different things, some of which is good and some bad. So we must be sure we are renouncing what God has renounced. On the other hand, some have left what they thought was “legalism” when in reality they were rebelling against God’s own Word.
      There are some signs that you have fallen into a false liberalism that rejects Biblical standards. And remember that the restrictions on women speaking in the meetings and leading (as in 1 Cor. 14:33-37) are actually “the Lord’s commands” rather than Paul’s views (v. 37). I guess you are familiar with the fact that there were no female elders, preachers, deacons, overseers, or apostles in the early community of Christ (I assume you know the Biblical passages on this). This is what makes me reject the modern “evangelical” (?) feminism that opens the door to women’s public participation. I know that this doesn’t sit well with the ones who would throw off all restraint and fall into modern society, but the way of Christ and the apostles has always been counter-cultural.
      Mrs. Schwartz, I hope you will consider these things carefully. May God bless you.

  21. Richard, The following web site articles are among many that put up a defense of infant Baptism. I happen to believe that they make sense and do not defy scripture.

    http://www.risensaviorlcms.org/brochures/Why_Infant_Baptism.pdf
    http://www.prca.org/articles/infant_baptism.html

    In any case we know: Joh_3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

    Peace!

  22. Richard, In case you can’t find the Fairfield document I referred to it can be found at:

    http://truthinheart.com/EarlyOberlinCD/CD/Doctrine/Baptism.htm

    This is not the paraphrased version I mentioned in my note. As regards to what I believe about this topic — I currently concur with Fairfield and Cliff Bjork ( who by the way was also at one time a Baptist pastor). However I don’t always agree with denomination of the congregation I currently am a member of (LCMS) and left the church of my youth because of their false teachings and practices (ELCA).
    I’m trying to convince our congregational leadership to go to an every week (or more) Holy Communion schedule. In searching the internet for more info on that subject I came across your site.

    Blessings,
    Bruce

    • Thank you again, Bruce. I appreciate your writing and the additional information. I can look up the article on the internet that you are directing me to and also find the book you mentioned through Interlibrary Loan. I don’t know if you have ever seen or read the book by T. J. Conant entitled “The Meaning and Use of Baptizein.” It is worth checking out.
      Bruce, I understand that you left the liberal Evangelical Lutherans and are now with the Missouri Synod Lutherans; is this correct? And do you not find various false teachings there as well–such as baby baptism, baptismal regeneration, denominationalism, and a host of other elements?
      Further, regarding baptism, does it not concern you that the vast majority of Greek lexicons, Bible dictionaries, Bible encyclopedias, and early church history books, define baptism as immersion and say that the early church for centuries practiced immersion (except for so-called “clinic” baptism)?
      Well, thank you again for writing and I’ll check out what you are recommending.

  23. Have you read the book “Letters on Baptism” by Edmund B. Fairfield D.D. etc? At the time he started his study on Baptism he was a prominent and solid Baptist and had set out to defend the Baptist viewpoint. His exhaustive study caused him to conclude that the Greek word baptizo cannot mean exclusively “to immerse” as Baptists adamantly insist. As a result of his study hw found it impossible to remain a minister of the Gospel in any Baptist denomination. This book was originally published in 1893 but an easier to read edited and paraphrased version has been published and distributed by Cliff Bjork — Word of Life Fellowship, 366 Bench Street, PO Box 295 Taylor Falls MN 55084, tele: 651-465-7373.

    • Thank you, Bruce, for the information. I would like to check into this. If there is anything that can refine my understanding of God’s Word and Will, I would seek it. After many years of study, at present, my understanding would be: (1) The Greek word at the time of the NT, was that baptizo does mean to immerse, sink, overwhelm, submerge, or dip. (2) History seems to say that in the first, second, and third centuries, baptism continued to be immersion, except for the case of the Didache (where one could pour water profusely if there was insufficient water); (the early “church fathers” unanimously referred to baptism as a birth, a resurrection, an immersion. The exception would be a “clinic” (or deathbed) conversion where profuse pouring was permitted. But perhaps Fairfield has some further information. Thank you, Bruce. P.S. I should ask just what your view is.

  24. Norris, thank you for posting this comment. It is a significant verse. However, do you care to share with us how you think this should be applied? Thank you.

  25. For this perfume might have been sold for over three hundred denarii, and the money given to the poor. And they were scolding her.

  26. Jeffrey, again it is so good that you are writing and sharing the account of your life–your past 60 years. Now, I suggest that we transfer our conversation to the Blog section of this site. I’ll continue there. Just click Blog (as you did a day or two ago) and you’ll find me there!

  27. Thank you Richard for taking time out of your busy day. I live near Cleveland, Oh. I have read many many articles on your site and even the one regarding the Church of Christ. My parents were both members. I have never been baptised however I realize its importance. When I search this church it comes up as a “cult” because they are the only true church, baptism regeneration, not affialiating with other christians and much more. I may start there just because I believe allot of their basic doctrine are similar to the true church. Last year I turned sixty and on my birthday I asked God to help me have eternal life! It was the first time I prayed in my life. About a month later I started searching scripture on the gospel. I am consumed every nite and can’t to get home to start reading. I really am a little lost on what is the true way to salvation. I know it is so much more than just believing but faith is the first step. Thank you

  28. Greetings Jeffery…. I’m so glad that you chose to respond with such an important but difficult question. If you and I were sitting at a table and we could discuss what is on your heart, I would share a few things.

    First, it is so good that you do seem to have a respect for God and His Word. Both of these are important–even essential. God is the very reason why we are here and He is the basis for our existence. We are to love and trust and obey Him. Second, God loved us so much that He freely gave His beloved Son–who came to this land of sin in order to become our Savior by dying on the cross for our sins, then God raised Jesus from the dead that He might be our living Lord.

    Second, it is also good that you see a need in your life so that you understand that you must do something to respond to God and receive His forgiveness and reconciliation with Him.
    Third, it is also good that you think in terms of fellowship with others who have come to God through Christ. And, as you can see, the denominational “churchianity” way is not the way to go. Jesus is the only way and we should be with others who have come to know the Lord.

    Jeffrey, obviously we can’t settle these weighty matters here but I would recommend that you search the website thoroughly and you will find many dozens of articles that will help you, encourage you, and instruct you how to take you from where you now are to where God wants you to be.

    Use the “Search” feature (at the upper right) on the home page, and look for
    Are You Truly a Christian?” Also check for “Shipwreck to Salvation.” There is another one entitled “Christians Only?” Then there is one entitled, “Living for the Lord in a Wicked World.” As you proceed further in your quest, you may want to check this one: “Come Out, and Come Together!”

    These are some suggestions, but there are many more there for you to read. (Presently, there are about 1,750 different articles.) By the way, where are you located? Go ahead and read the ones suggested and continue to search important subjects in the various categories of articles. Keep me informed on how you are doing. –Richard

  29. Jeffery Wright says:

    Richard

    I thoroughly enjoy your website. I want to become a Christian and I am looking for a church that practices and lives God’s word. Can you recommend one? I am leaning towards a nondenominational church.

  30. Greetings in Christ!

    I recently discovered your site in my search for what I would call biblical and apostolic Christianity. I believe I will frequently visit it.

    I am a Lutheran bishop in my 60’s who at this stage in my life and ministry am discovering some rather challenging and refreshing truths our of the pages of the New Testament.

    Please pray for me and my wife Carmen as we move along this journey.

    • Hello Juan,

      I’m so glad that you discovered our True Discipleship website. We had it for about 16 years but only a few months ago began a long process of reformatting things into a brand new site. I hope it will prove to be usable for you!

      I’m interested in what you say about your religious background. You do appear to be a sincere and seeking man, with plenty of experience, and a wholesome trust in God’s Word. I remember what Yahweh God said, as recorded at Isaiah 66:2b: “To this one I will look, to him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.”

      From what you say, you are one who “trembles” at God’s Word and want to approach it with an open heart and seeking mind. May God be praised! I hope that you continue to search the website (there are about 1,750 different articles) and examine many of the titles that you will find profitable.

      May the Lord bless you and please feel free to write whenever you can!

      Richard

  31. Thank you for your site. I am studying much of the same topics that you are writing about, so I find it very interesting. I have only look at a few of your articles and I have made the same conclusions that you have written.

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